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Reederei Hans August Sabban, Hamburg - flag horizontal black
over red, white "S".
Image after Brown's Flags and Funnels Shipping Companies of the World,
compiled by J.L. Loughran, Glasgow, 1995 [lgr95]
Jarig Bakker, 17 Jan 2006
The company was located in Tornesch-Esingen and Uetersen (both Pinneberg county). It is a red flag divided by a white saltire. In the centre of the flag is a black disc, fimbriated white and containing a white capital "S".
Source: "Flaggen, Schornsteine, Reedereien- Flaggen und Schornsteine der deutschen Reedereien und ihre Schiffe über 300 BRT"; Hamburg 1957; p.F25
Klaus-Michael Schneider, 13 Apr 2009
Satrans Speditionsgesellschaft mbH - Basically an orange-light
green-orange horizontal triband. A blue stripe covers the orange stripes
in the lower hoist and upper fly, creating an 'S' in the center.
Jorge Candeias, 12 Mar 1999
This one is another flag that is pretty clear in all its details. The
flag itself is white with a red cross and a blue S over all. And the caption
reads "Sauber Gabr." I have some doubts about the Gabr., but none about
the Sauber.
Jorge Candeias, 30 Nov 2004
A Sauber Gebr. firm of Hamburg is mentioned in a thread on Norwegian
ships sunk in WWI, which appeared on a Norwegian
Merchant Fleet forum.
Ned Smith, 1 Dec 2004
And a neat flag it is ('sauber' means 'clean') - see on-line 1912
Lloyds Flags & Funnels, under No. 1091 'Sauber Gebr., Hamburg'.
Jan Mertens, 2 Dec 2004
"Gebr." in English means "Bros."
Sauber Gebr. were founded on July 6, 1839 in Hamburg as a wholesale
and retail business für British coal. In 1845 they started importing coal
from Newcastle with chartered ships. 1871 they started building teir first
own coal freighter steamship by the name of "John Sauber".
During and after WW 1 business came to a standstill. All ships were
confiscated. Business began slowly again because the old ties to Newcastle
were still there. In WW II the same thing happened all over again.
Start after WW II was very difficult, but again in the 1950s own and
chartered ships transported Newcastle coal. With the advent of oil and
has heating the retail and import business withered away until the company
went into bankrupcy in the 1960s.
Wolf Knipfer, 5 Feb 2009
A Scanscot house flag was recently offered on German eBay and this recently founded shipping company already has its article-in-progress on (also German) Wikipedia:
br>Dark green field with three horizontal white lines in the lower half, two thin ones above a single broad one resting on the flag's lower edge; a large white disk bleeding into the lower stripe contains a stylized italic initial "S", sharply serifed, in black.
Hamburg based Scanscot was founded in 1995 by Thominvest of Finland, finally operating about a dozen multibulk ships equipped with impressive cranes active as trampers and most of them flying the Isle of Man flag. Occasionally others ships were chartered as well. Financial difficulties led to bankruptcy in 2010.
The flag may be espied on some Shipspotting photos:
Jan Mertens 1 Jun 2011
This
page presents the ?Seedienst Ostpreussen? (Maritime Service
East Prussia or East Prussian Naval Service):
Founded in 1920, its aim was to ensure a direct link between Germany
and its post-1919 exclave, East Prussia. (Train journeys across the ?Polish
Corridor? were judged onerous.) Ships of existing firms ? Gribel, Braeunlich,
Norddeutscher Lloyd , etc. - made up the fleet of this government-supported
company which started operating its own ships in 1926. The vessels were
commandeered when war broke out in 1939; the year 1944 saw the end of the
'Seedienst'.
Its flag is shown on a poster shown on above webpage. On a red field,
between black capital letters ?S? and ?O?, fimbriated white, is a white
shield bearing a black Latin cross. The shield is given some relief while
the letters are in a font I cannot identify.
Jan Mertens, 30 May 2005
The flag is quartered per saltire, black in the top quarter, white in
the bottom one and red in the other two. The white quarter has a black
sans serifed capital S in the center. And the caption, if I'm not seriously
mistaken, reads F. M. A. Sede. (A little trivia: "sede" is portuguese
for "thirst" - funny name for a navigation company).
Jorge Candeias, 27 Dec 2004
"F.M.A. Seele, Hamburg", see here.
The ship in the first picture ("Colmar") was sold to this firm in 1883.
Unfortunately, no house flag is shown.In any case this is another example
of a house flag repeating the (former) national German colours.
Jan Mertens, 29 Dec 2004
Seetouristik G.m.b.H. & Co. K.G., Norden Hafen - flag horizontal
blue over yellow; white shield, black "S".
Image after Brown's Flags and Funnels Shipping Companies of the World,
compiled by J.L. Loughran, Glasgow, 1995 [lgr95]
Jarig Bakker, 2 Feb 2006
Seetransit Speditions & Schiffahrts G.m.b.H., Duisburg -
Spanish style green - white - green; on white 4 green blocks.
Image after Brown's Flags and Funnels Shipping Companies of the World,
compiled by J.L. Loughran, Glasgow, 1995 [lgr95]
Jarig Bakker, 6 Oct 2005
The flag is white with a narrow chequy band at the hoist, consisting
of 9x2 red and white squares, and a sans-seriffed black "S" capital centered
on the remainder. The caption may eventually, if my guesses are correct
(which is doubtful), read "Senien Gem".
Jorge Candeias, 6 Dec 2004
That is Seetzen Gebrüder, Bremen. Loughran's Survey of Mercantile
Houseflags and Funnels, 1979, has this flag with at top and bottom af the
fly a red border (1/8 flagheight), and a serifed S.
Jarig Bakker, 8 Dec 2004
The company was located in Hamburg. The flag is the nearly the same like that one of Franz Hagen in Hamburg, has however a celestial blue basic colour.
Source: "Flaggen, Schornsteine, Reedereien- Flaggen und Schornsteine der deutschen Reedereien und ihre Schiffe über 300 BRT"; Hamburg 1957; p.F26
Klaus-Michael Schneider, 14 Apr 2009
The company was probably located in Hamburg. Source gives Walter Lass in brackets. The latter exists still today and has a bureau at Johannisbollwerk in Hamburg.
The red flag is divided per bend by a black stripe fimbriated white. Within the black stripe are descending white capitals "FES".
Source: "Flaggen, Schornsteine, Reedereien- Flaggen und Schornsteine der deutschen Reedereien und ihre Schiffe über 300 BRT"; Hamburg 1957; p.F9
Klaus-Michael Schneider, 20 May 2010
The "Bernd Sibum" shipping company is based at Haren (Ems). The Sibum family has been involved in ship building since the XIXth century; in 1953, the brothers Stefan and Hermann Sibum founded a shipping company and purchased their first ship, MS "Gerd". They were succeeded by Stefan's son, Bernd Sibum, who registered the "Reederei Bernd Sibum GmbH & Co. KG" on 1 November 1995. The company operates 11 ships, all named after a member of the Sibum family. Company website.
The house flag of Sibum is blue with a yellow diamond nearly touching
the edges of the flag and charged with a blue "S". Shown as a graphic all
over the company website, the flag can be seen on photographs of ships,
for instance MS "Anna-Maria Sibum", "Rita Sibum" and "Grete Sibum".
Tzibum, Tzibum.
Ivan Sache, 7 Sep 2008
image by , 7 Jan 2005 |
image by Klaus-Michael Schneider, 2 Apr 2007 |
The flag is clear: white with two narrow blue stripes near the bottom and top (or, in other words, a striped flag of white and blue, with proportions close to 1:1:4:1:1) and large black initials in the
center: "P.S.&Co"
Jorge Candeias, 7 Jan 2005
The caption is 'Peter Siemsen & Co.', no ghost this time as there are some traces on the net the most interesting of which is this one, concerning Peter Siemsen 1787-1854, a trader (and later also senator) of Hamburg. Quote: "He, together with his brother, my grand uncle Jan, comprised until his early death in 1854 the firm Peter Siemsen and Co, which my uncle Nölting with my uncle Peter also joined."'
Jan Mertens, 6 Apr 2007
Peter Siemsen & Co. - The company used a white flag with two blue
horizontal stripes and a blue serifed inscription "PS&Co." (the "o" is smaller and higher / right image)).
Source: Jürgen Meyer: "Hamburger Segelschiffe von 1795-1945"; ISBN 3-89225-400-1; Hamburg 1999; inside cover.
Klaus-Michael Schneider, 2 Apr 2007
?J.J. Sietas KG Schiffswerft GmbH u. Co.? meaning ?Sietas Wharf? in short is established at Hamburg, more exactly at the place where the little river Este joins the Elbe. English version of company website, showing a modest little pennant: ?One of the oldest family-owned shipyards in the world,? Sietas has a very distinguished history starting in 1635 building wooden vessels for local traffic and fishing boats. The wharf started building schooners from 1870 on; steel made its entrance in 1908 but WWI and inflation stopped shipbuilding, leaving repairs, till 1933. From then on the construction of coasters relaunched the wharf; another milestone was the first true container ship, built 1966. Nowadays the versatile firm employs about 900 people. ?Versatile? as exemplified by the ?Products? section showing a wide array of passenger and cargo ships (Ro/Ro of Ro/Lo, container, heavy loads, coasters, tankers, fishing boats, etc.). Partnerships include Norderwerft, a repair and conversion wharf (nice house flag).
A blue pennant is shown as a drawing, bearing white initials ?J.J. Sietas?
(standing for ?Johann Jacob? I believe). A bigger image is shown
here
(page explaining SLS or Sietas Loading System): here is a picture, part
of another German eBay offer (item no. 180128662301, valid till 18 June
2007, dimensions given as 300 x 400 mm). The colour is admittedly
different but could be the result of ageing: it was part of a rather old
file.
Jan Mertens, 28 Aug 2007
The company was located in Grünendeich (Stade county ?). It is a black over white over black horizontal triband with red capitals "HS" in the white stripe.
Source: "Flaggen, Schornsteine, Reedereien- Flaggen und Schornsteine der deutschen Reedereien und ihre Schiffe über 300 BRT"; Hamburg 1957; p.F27
Klaus-Michael Schneider, 14 Apr 2009
The company was located in Bremerhaven. It is a white flag having a green bordure at three edges, approx double width at the hoist and none at the fly. In the white field is a red "M" superimposing a bigger red "S".
Source: "Flaggen, Schornsteine, Reedereien- Flaggen und Schornsteine der deutschen Reedereien und ihre Schiffe über 300 BRT"; Hamburg 1957; p.F27
Klaus-Michael Schneider, 14 Apr 2009
The company was located in Breiholz near Rendsburg. It is a white flag divided by a red saltire, which is cotized blue and white. In the centre of the flag is a black disc containing a white capital "S".
Source: "Flaggen, Schornsteine, Reedereien- Flaggen und Schornsteine der deutschen Reedereien und ihre Schiffe über 300 BRT"; Hamburg 1957; p.F27
Klaus-Michael Schneider, 14 Apr 2009
It was red over white over red horizontal triband. In the white stripe was a black inscription "H&J S".
Source: Gratis Beilage zu Deicken und Behrmann's Neuen Monatsheften Neue Ausgabe Sommer 1897
Klaus-Michael Schneider, 13 May 2012
And here's another readable caption, this time reading "J. Silvain".
The flag is white with 5 red 5-pointed stars, disposed in saltire.
Jorge Candeias, 19 May 2004
The very same houseflag was used by the French shipping company "Chargeurs
Réunis".
The name "Silvain" sounds French but does not necessarily indicate
a link between the two companies. It is more probable that the ancestors
of J. Silvain were Protestant traders or shipowners very wisely expelled
from France by king Louis XIV for the benefit of the economical, social
and cultural development of the Lutherian countries.
Ivan Sache, 20 May 2004
It is a red flag with a green border. In the red field are white initials "CHR".
Please note, we have this flag among French shipping lines, but the 3rd initial is a "P", which would be normal. I could find no reason for replacing it by an "R". The image in this source is probably erroneous.
Source: Gratis Beilage zu Deicken und Behrmann's Neuen Monatsheften Neue Ausgabe Sommer 1897
Klaus-Michael Schneider, 25 Apr 2012
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