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image located by David Hathaway, 17 March 2006
The National Benzole Company ran a fleet of small tankers between the 1920's and
the 1950's - the firm now just runs garages in north of England.
David Hathaway, 17 March 2006
image located by Jan Mertens, 27 November 2005
Source: www.mysticseaport.org
The National Line (National Steam Navigation Company) was a Liverpool
shipping company which existed between 1863 and 1914.
Established in Liverpool in 1863 with a view to link this port to the
Southern US but changed to New York because of the Civil War. In any case
the idea was to use iron screw steamers transporting cargo as well as
passengers (emigrants, mainly). Competitors were Cunard, Guion, Anchor and
Inman; the National Line did rather well till about 1880 thanks to its
emphasis on freight and numbers of passengers (large ships) rather than
speed.
Other ports linked were London-New York (1870) and Boston. National Line
had twelve ships in 1879, four of which were then commandeered for the Zulu
Wars. One moment of glory occurred when the ‘America’ – for two months –
held the Blue Riband (1884). The sailings to New York were discontinued in
1892. In 1896, the Atlantic Transport Line took over National Line which
would only carry freight from then on, as it had already done on the
London-New York route anyway. The end came in 1914 through voluntary
liquidation.
Sources:
http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/lines/national.html
http://www.diduknow.info/emigrants/media/emigration_usa.rtf
http://www.mersey-gateway.org.uk/yesterdays/server.php?show=ConWebDoc.1192
The house flag is red, a white
cross throughout and a union jack in the centre, as shown at
www.mysticseaport.org, No. 1804 ‘National Steam Ship Co., Ltd., London’.
Jan Mertens, 27 November 2005
image by Jarig Bakker, 10 November 2005, modified by André Coutanche
National Power PLC., London - white flag, blue disk, charged with red "P" and a
white N resembling a lightning flash.
Source: Loughran (1995)
Jarig Bakker, 10 November 2005
image by Eugene Ipavec, 19 August 2008
image by Eugene Ipavec, 19 August 2008
The Maritime Timetable Images site features Nelson Line aka ‘Nelson
Steam Navigation Co.’ A flag drawing from the first poster (clickable),
presenting Sailings September-December 1924, shows a seemingly tapering
swallowtail, red, bearing small white diamond with black initial ‘N’ – here, it
almost seems blue (and on the second poster the swallowtail seems orange).
Confirmation of colours (without tapering however) in the
on-line 1912 Lloyds Flags & Funnels, no. 1752, ‘H. & W. Nelson, Ltd. (Nelson
Line), Liverpool and London’. Incidentally also shown by Flaggenbuch 1928 II, as
no. 396 ‘Nelson Line, Ltd, London’ with black initial, no tapering.
Essentials on the
Ships List
site:
“Formed 1880 for the meat trade from Argentina to UK. Commenced
passenger service in 1910 between London [and] Buenos Aires. 1913 came under
control of Royal Mail Steam Packet Co. 1932 Royal Mail Group collapsed, Royal
Mail Lines Ltd founded and Nelson Line merged into the new company and
disappeared as a separate company.”
Much more on
Merchant Navy Officers
site:
The shipping line was founded to help expand the meat business of
Hugh and William Nelson, sons of James, butcher and breeder. Experiments in
refrigerated transport from family-owned meat company in Argentina to Great
Britain. A number of ships were registered as separate firms managed by the
Nelsons, merged into ‘Nelson Line (Liverpool) Ltd’ in 1898 becoming ‘H. and W.
Nelson Ltd’ three years later; in the same year (1901) limited passenger
transportation started as well. ‘Nelson Line (London) Ltd’ formed in 1910 for
passengers, new ships to be brought under control of ‘Nelson Steam Navigation
Co. Ltd’. Nelson companies bought up by Royal Mail Steam Packer in 1913 but
retained funnel and flag. Serious losses during WWI. Only ‘Nelson Steam’
remained in 1925. Newly formed company Royal Mail Lines took over Royal Mail
Steam Packet, Nelson, and other companies in 1932 – and that was the end of the
Nelson house flag.
There appears be no connection found with ‘Nelson &
Co.’ at Liverpool flying a completely different flag (Griffin 1891).
Jan
Mertens, 17 August 2008
from Stewart and Styring's Flags, Funnels and Hull Colors 1963Geo. Nesbet & Co., Ltd.
image
by Phil Nelson, 11 April 2000
from Stewart and Styring's Flags, Funnels and Hull Colors 1963
George Nesbit & Co. Ltd. Originated as Nesbit, Calder & Co. with a similar flag
but swallowtailed and with the blue letters "NC", [one source says black], the
red bands being shown as narrower.
Neale Rosanoski, 6 June 2004
image by Ivan Sache, 24 March 20
Lloyds Book of House Flags and Funnels (1912)
shows the house flag of "Netherton Shipping Company (John Greenless & Co.)"
(#83, p. 40), a company based in Glasgow (Scotland), as quartered per saltire
blue-red with, in the middle, a white disk charged with a red "N".
Quoting Wikipedia (no primary source quoted):
"Castlehead in its heyday had
several major players in the shipping industry. If that seems surprising today,
bear in mind that until two thirds of the way through the twentieth century the
Clyde was one of the world’s busiest ports. Every shipping line worthy of the
name had offices in Glasgow and there were scores of ship managers and brokers
to handle the business of the smaller fry. It was a lucrative business, and
Castlehead’s moguls did not miss the opportunity. The Greenlees at Netherton (26
Main Road) were related to the J. & P. Coats dynasty and their own family
fortune was based on Rule and Greenlees, large-scale manufacturers of cotton and
gingham clothing in the East End of Glasgow. It was a natural progression for
major importers of textiles from the Far East to run their own ships and they
set up the Netherton Shipping Company."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castlehead,_Paisley
Ivan Sache, 24 March 2008
from Stewart and Styring's Flags, Funnels and Hull Colors 1963
image by António Martins-Tuválkin, 5 May 2010
From a postcard collection: 10.2.1: Newcastle
Steamship Company
Postcard #10, 2nd row, 1st flag of the
collection reads "Newcastle Steam Ship Co."
and shows a white flag with three black lozenges throughout, set side-by-side. A
British company.
António Martins-Tuválkin, 5 May 2010
image by António Martins-Tuválkin, 11 February 2008
Postcard collection reads "New Medway
Steam Packet Co." and shows a ~2:3 vertical bicolor of very dark blue and
dark red with a large white outlined of a rearing horse facing the fly.
António Martins-Tuválkin, 11 February 2008
image by Eugene Ipavec, 27 March 2009
When presenting the British excursion boat company ‘New Palace Steamers Ltd’,
however briefly, its predecessor or parent company ‘Palace Steamers Ltd’
(founded 1888) should be mentioned. Besides taking over the ships of a failed
Thames competitor, Palace Steamers had three large ships built: ‘Koh-i-Noor’,
‘Royal Sovereign’, and ‘La Marguerite’ but these were to be owned by separate
companies and operated by the related ‘Victoria Steamboat Association’ to
service the SE coast or cross the Channel. When these fine ships turned out to
be not only popular but very costly as well, they were retaken by their
shipbuilder Fairfield and operated under the name ‘New Palace Steamers Ltd’
(1894). One vessel was sold in 1904, the two others in 1918.
The house
flag – a pennant, really – is shown on a postcard (drawing), the first image on
this informative and well illustrated page at
http://www.simplonpc.co.uk/NewPalace.html. It is a white field with blue
cross edged yellow, serifed red initials in the corners: ‘N’ (upper hoist), ‘P’
(upper fly), ‘S’ (lower hoist), and ‘LTD (‘TD’ smaller and raised, placed above
a dot; lower fly).
image by Eugene Ipavec, 27 March 2009
But the
on-line 1912 Lloyds Flags & Funnels shows a simpler flag; this is No. 1235
‘New Palace Steamers Ltd., London’: there is no yellow edge. Perhaps Lloyds has
a later version of the house flag. The following company poster merely shows a
rudimentary pennant:
http://website.lineone.net/~tom_lee/newpalace1899.htm. Lloyds is a great
source, on the other hand the first picture must have had the company's
blessing. One day we will know...
Additional information:
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/tramways/NewPalaceSteamers.htm
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/tramways/VictoriaSteamboatAssociation.htm
Jan Mertens, 26 March 2009
Newry & Kilkeel Steam Ship Co. Ltd. This is the flag of Joseph Fisher & Sons
Ltd. dating from 1897. For a long time they traded through the Newry & Kilkeel
Steamship Co. Ltd. and, earlier, the Frontier Town Steamship Co. Ltd. By the mid
1960s the ships were only under their own name and they eventually faded from
Lloyds around the early 1980s.
Neale Rosanoski, 26 February 2004
image by Jarig Bakker, based on the website of the National Maritime Museum.
From the website of the National Maritime Museum, "the house flag of the New Zealand Shipping Co. Ltd, London. A white flag with a red cross and the black initials 'NZS Co' in the quarters. A pennant divided vertically into red white and blue above. The flag and pennant are made of a wool and synthetic fibre bunting. They have cotton hoists and are machine sewn. The pennant and flag are on a single rope with a toggle attached. The pennant was originally a 'steam cornet' flown to indicate that the vessel was proceeding under steam as well as sail. It was added to the house flag when the company acquired steam assisted vessels."
The letters are blue according to Brown (1951) and Loughran (1979),
and I think on the real flag too.
Jarig Bakker, 21 August 2004
New Zealand Shipping Co. Ltd., London: white, a red St George's cross and
blue letters (without serifs) in the corners: `N' in upper hoist, `Z' in upper
fly, `S' in lower hoist and `Co' in lower fly, the `o' raised (no dot). Above
this flag, a pennant vertically divided red-white-blue, the height being one
half of the flag's and slightly extending beyond it, say one fifth of its own
length. You can read more about it in
this pdf file.
And the same flag, without pennant, on
this document.
Based on Larousse Commercial Illustré (1930).
Jan Mertens, 4 June 2004
A postcard collection shows a card that
reads New Zealand Line and shows a white flag with a red cross throughout with
(light?) blue letters reading "N", "Z", "S", and "Co", on each quadrant
(host-fly, top-bottom), and a red, white, and blue vertical pennant hoisted
above the flag. The pennant is much smaller (about 2/5ths of the flag's height,
and the same length) than reported from the National Maritime Museum [shown
above].
António Martins-Tuválkin,
5 May 2010
image by Jarig Bakker, based on the website of the National Maritime Museum.
From the website of the National Maritime Museum, "the house flag of Niarchos Ltd., London. A white flag with a narrow horizontal band striped red, white a blue across the centre. In the middle is placed a large, black-bordered 'N'. The flag is made of a wool and synthetic fibre bunting. It has a cotton hoist and is machine sewn. A rope and toggle is attached."
Loughran (1979) shows nearly an identical flag
for Niarchos Group, Athens; Hellenic Shipyards Co. Ltd., of Piraeus, is part of
the empire of Stavros Niarchos, and uses his flag and funnel.
Jarig Bakker, 21 August 2004
James Nicoll & Co., Dundee.
The flag is white with a border red (top and left) and blue (bottom and right)
and N.D. (blue) in the middle.
Based on
The Mystic Seaport Foundation
Ivan Sache, 1 February 2004
image by Jarig Bakker, 20 September 2005
Nomikos (London) Ltd, London - Israeli-style flag; in center blue cross formy.
Source:
Loughran (1995)
Jarig Bakker, 20 September 2005
from Stewart and Styring's Flags, Funnels and Hull Colors 1963
Norships Ocean Carriers Ltd. This is one that you may wish to toss a coin as to
what name it should be shown under. In Brown 1951 it is recorded for Ship
Finance & Management Co. Ltd. They operated various companies, several of which
had name beginning with "N" and ships with a 1st name of "Lord" indicating that
they were connected and probably were subsidiaries. Norships Ocean Carriers Ltd.
do not appear in Lloyds Shipowners 1953-4 but one company in the above category,
Norwood Steamship Co. Ltd., does and this explains why Stewart 1953 and 1957
show the livery for both Ships Finance & Management and Norwood Steamship. By
1958 the companies operated by Ships Finance & Management appear to have been
consolidated into Norships Ocean Carriers Ltd. which explains why Stewart 1963
and US Navy record it under that name (ignoring the operator). By the beginning
of the 1970s the fleet appears to be under Norships Freighters Inc. with all
other names, including Ship Finance, disappeared from the scene. The answer to
all this, it seems, is one of the "London" Greeks, George Nilcolaou Ltd., being
behind everything, certainly noted as agents for the last mentioned company and
actually shown by US Navy 1961 as well for the livery but under the Greek
section despite domiciling in London.
Neale Rosanoski, 26 February 2004
image by Jarig Bakker, 9 September 2005
North East Towing Ltd., Newcastle-upon-Tyne - white flag, black connected
"NE".
Source:
Loughran (1995)
Jarig Bakker, 9 September 2005
image by Ivan Sache, 3 April 2008
Lloyds Book of House Flags and Funnels (1912)
shows the house flag of "North Lincolnshire Steamship Fishing Co., Ltd. Co."
(#287, p. 50), a company based in Grimsby, as blue with a white ring charged
with a white "L" in the middle.
Ivan Sache, 3 April 2008
The flag is horizontally divided blue-white-blue.
image by Jarig Bakker, 10 December 2005
North Sea Ferries, Hull - diagonally divided, blue in lower hoist, white in
broad stripe in centre, white in upper hoist. Blue and light blue
separated by thin white bar. On light blue panel and oval logo showing a
stylized ship made of horizontal white lines on a dark blue sea.
Source: Loughran (1995)
Jarig Bakker, 10 December 2005
image by Jarig Bakker, based on the website of the National Maritime Museum.
From the website of the National
Maritime Museum, "the house flag of the North Thames Gas Board, London. A
white flag with a red rising sun motif in the centre and the black letters 'NTGB'
in the corners. The flag is made of a wool and synthetic fibre bunting. It has a
cotton hoist and is machine sewn. A rope and toggle is attached."
Jarig Bakker, 22 August 2004
Brown (1951) shows shows the same flag with blue letters.
Jarig Bakker, 22 August 2004
image by Ivan Sache, 27 April 2008
Lloyds Book of House Flags and Funnels (1912)
shows the house flag of "Northwold Steam Fishing Co., Ltd" (#321, p. 52), a
company based in Grimsby, as red with a white "W" inscribed in a white ring.
Ivan Sache,
27 April 2008
image by Jarig Bakker, based on the website of the National Maritime Museum.
From the website of the National
Maritime Museum, "the house flag of the North Yorkshire Shipping Co. Ltd.,
London. A green flag with a white rose in the centre. The flag is made of a wool
and synthetic fibre bunting. It has a cotton hoist and is machine sewn. The
design is printed. A rope and toggle is attached."
Jarig Bakker, 22 August 2004
from Stewart and Styring's Flags, Funnels and Hull Colors 1963